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Finally, we have some one who has mentioned global warming.

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I was tearing my hair out, very much in public, over the missed opportunities early in the Obama administration in real time, as they happened; I don’t see much point in dwelling on them again, at least for now — maybe I’ll want to do postmortems after Rick Perry is sworn into office.
They're only "missed opportunities" if one imagines or pretends that Obama wanted to do right by average Americans.
Why, at this late date, would anyone imagine or pretend that?

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The left must be seen to repudiate Obama, and they must be seen to take him down. If the left does not do this, left wing politics and policies will be discredited with Obama.

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I think I just had an insight but I don't know what it means exactly.
In reading over the tweets and posts from last night's GOP debate I realized that one distinctive difference between the two parties is how their base reacts to criticism.
For instance, I see many people reacting to the right's dishonest attacks on Obama by saying "that's not true, he didn't really do that. Here are the facts, I'll prove it to you." Progressives are very concerned that the right isn't out there misinforming the rest of the public and go to great lengths to "set the record straight." By contrast, during the Bush years, when liberals criticized the president, the other side would say "Yeah. So what? He did the right thing."
They'd stage a symbolic hissy fit every once in a while to prove their moral/patriotic bonafides, usually over a perceived slight from a hippie somewhere, but they really didn't care if the left "understood" what they were doing or if they approved. In fact, they consciously try to offend them.
I'll give you an example. Obama is being criticized as a tax hiker when he is, in fact, a tax cutter. I wrote a long thing about it yesterday, teeing off of Eleanor Clift's long essay on the same subject. Both of us, I suspect for different reasons, felt it necessary to correct the impression that Obama is a tax hiker. I don't think the right would do that. Assuming that they believed, as liberals ostensibly do, that taxation is necessary and that it isn't a crime to ask people to pay for the government services they receive, they'd say "So what? There should be even more of that and he did the right thing."
They wouldn't care that he didn't really raise taxes. They seek to validate their own instincts and/or principles above all.
The best real life example is torture. When we accused the Bush administration of torture, and the Bush administration denied it saying "America doesn't torture", the right flat out said "we think torture of all kinds is a-ok, and anyone who disagrees with us is unAmerican. Thank God Bush protected us by torturing people." They just don't care if the left approves of what they do, and they'd rather have them upset over something that didn't happen than set the record straight and validate the left's beliefs in any way.
Judging from the reaction to last night's cheering for the death of the uninsured, that holds up very well today. They truly believe that people who are "irresponsible" should die (assuming, of course, that decent people like themselves could never be considered "irresponsible.") And they are happy to own anything that upsets liberals.
I realize that this is a very broad observation and there are dozens of examples disproving what I just wrote. But I think it's generally descriptive of the two parties. And the implications of it are fairly clear. Conservatives are always offensive and progressives are always defensive. I guess both strategies are capable of winning, but the former is a lot more energizing and fun.
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In fact, [Obama's] a great guy. I think he's doing pretty much the best job he can.
I hear a lot of chatter about how the left needs to forget about electoral politics, stop talking and start organizing, go local and all the other stuff I've been hearing off and on for as long as I can remember. And there's an element of truth in all of it.

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This cartoon from 1862 could run in the papers tomorrow as an example of the typical Republican/Wingnut reaction to President Obama’s speech (it would also cover the reaction of more than a few firebaggers as well). This has been the reaction to everything President Obama has done so far, so I see no reason why it would stop tonight.
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The speech was long on proposals that are unlikely to pass and full of policies that are far too weighted to tax cuts to be entirely useful in the short run. We've been cutting taxes for years now and the rich just save it while everyone else pays down their debt. But the GOP don't want no stinking stimulus of any kind, so the best we can hope for is small bore and maybe some of this will sneak through, who knows?This is followed by a swatch of Bush III's oh-so-soaring spiel, listing government programs initiated in the past, the likes of which he'd never support in a million years, and then she continues:
But I liked some of President Obama's rhetoric tonight. It's campaign stuff really, and if he keeps it up there might even be a real debate between the two parties --- rhetorically at least:
That's the liberal legacy. It's nice to hear it once in a while. And maybe if the people hear it, they might just like it too.... followed by the section where he makes deficit reduction the heart, as it were, of his plan.
So, why in the world ...
Moreover, on what planet is it a good idea to take away the best argument the Democrats have in 2012 by proposing this? Candidates all over the country are being told to run on Medicare and hang the Ryan plan around the neck of every dumb Republicans who voted for it. I guess that's not going to be operative going forward.
It's bad politics and it's bad policy and for the life of me I cannot figure out why they would insist on doing it unless they truly believe the policy of raising the Medicare age is worth sacrificing a huge campaign advantage (much less the lives of many people.) I can only speculate about why that would be.
Since the Republicans aren't likely to pass anything anyway, it would have been nice to have an argument for direct government stimulus, but since the president has been making the case for belt tightening for the last several months, I guess they figure it would be too confusing. But committing to more deficit reduction, singling out Medicare and Medicaid, was an unnecessary step backwards.
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This is becoming surreal. It's almost impossible to sort out what these people really want anymore or what they think they will accomplish... it's all a bizarre suicidal kabuki dance.
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It doesn't really matter how disappointed with President Obama many of us may be.
We every right to be angry and disappointed, and we have every obligation to make doubly sure that our presidential candidates are vetted for progressive values in 2016.
[T]he veal pen, Democrats, and MSM didn't recognize us then and they won't recognize us now.

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[T]he wave of criticism from the left over the stimulus is fundamentally flawed: it ignores the real choices Obama faced (and the progressive decisions he made) and wishes away any constraints upon his power.
The most common hallmark of the left’s magical thinking is a failure to recognize that Congress is a separate, coequal branch of government consisting of members whose goals may differ from the president’s.
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I don't know what to say about this strategy. It's so obviously born out of fear of Republican lunacy and the corrupt necessity to raise outrageous sums of money that it makes me feel depressed even thinking about it.
And frankly, I'm increasingly worried that it's going to end up in a bad result in November 2012. I wouldn't have thought that was possible considering the GOP offerings and the stakes, but it's hard to see a majority voting for this. It's mush.
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Back in the day I used to pose a question every once in while just to get a read on whether any consensus was emerging: Why did we go into Iraq? Inevitably, there would be at least a dozen different answers, all plausible, all probably held by some Very Serious Person or war hawk somewhere. I suspect we're going to see the inexplicable move to austerity the same way. There were different reasons, but all of them were wrong.
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Heck, if slapping my first-born in the face bumped [Obama's] numbers up with independents, I'd tolerate it
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GuestAll those who take part in the vast machinery of torment and state terror have been praised, rewarded and protected by the government, in both the Bush and Obama administrations. Indeed, the Nobel Peace Laureate has exceeded the Crawford Caligula in his zealous efforts to quash any and all attempts at legal redress by actual victims of the gulag.
He has also fought doggedly -- and successfully -- to prevent even the slightest nod toward even nominal punishment for anyone involved in the patent criminality of the gulag system. And why not? It's a matter of self-protection. After all, the gulag system has never been dismantled, only tweaked here and there -- and shuffled around to new secret sites. (Although it is true that Obama, being the great compassionate humanitarian that he is, seems slightly less interested in kidnapping and indefinite detention than his predecessor. No, he prefers simply assassinating people outright -- without charges, without representation, outside any legal process, even the 'laws of war' -- and often en masse, with drone missiles that take out whole families, whole neighborhoods. That's the progressive way!)
This battle has to be waged and if [Obama] won't call out the Republicans rhetorically, he needs to at least show in some way that they are obstructing his program.... So please, let the two parties show that they take different sides on these issues. It's not a bad thing. It's how we do it in America.
[M]any of us who now know how we have been used will vote for him again, because, as he rightly calculates, there is no one else, and the alternative is even worse. Watch and weep as today's rebels become next year's rationalizers.I've offered him a 2L4O shirt, if he's ready to go the full Monty on getting off the Obamawagon. I'll let you know if/how he responds.
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I really don't care to read anything by that thug. Digby, can you kindly ask TINS not to shove any more of dkos shit on us.