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posted by Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy at 12:01 AM
It will be all your fault if Obama loses! I hope you can live with yourself! Just kidding, of course! BTW, your cartoons are wonderful.I don't know who I despise more, the delusional Obots who steadfastly deny reality, or, the hypocritical partisans who know full-well what Obama is and don't care.
I thought I had seen so many of these that I would no longer actually laugh at any of them, but this one got a genuine lol. <3 Vast
"...I don't know who I despise more, the delusional Obots who steadfastly deny reality..."I can't really despise them, though I try. So many of them are my friends and family. [sigh] I mostly just feel pain, seeing their passiveness as issues they clearly care about are constantly co-opted and then trashed to suit the agenda of an asshole like Obama-- who so obviously cares about nothing and no one but himself.That doesn't stop me from ranting about their willful cluelessness frequently, though. I also worry that their hours of time logged on to spaces like Daily Kos will morph them from your first category to your second category without them even realizing it. :(
Hi, ms_xeno! I'm the former anonymous you replied to.Good points, all.When I used the word "despise", I must admit I was thinking about those who resort to name-calling and character assassination in response to people who are not buying the magic beans the Dems are peddling.And that seems to happen mostly online. As far relatives and acquaintances go, I have to say that I avoid political conversation with the die-hard Dembots in the same way I avoid political conversation with die-hard Republizombies. It's too damn frustrating dealing with their reality disconnect and logic-defying rationalizations.
/sighI still try, most days. I understand the temptation of giving up, but if we don't have hope that someone can eventually awaken in them the belief that the world could still exist without state killing, what's it all really for? The personal insults coming from them are pretty unpleasant. It's the same sort of reaction you get when you try to seriously discuss the existence of God and/or His historical goodness with the average Christian. (Harley, you're certainly right that they mostly do the personal verbal stuff online.)
I am quite in earnest about the hope, but also tempering my expectations down to a level not wildly out of sync with the recurring reality.
High Arka I think I see where you're coming from. In my own defense, I only give-up on the diehards, the ones who only dig deeper into fantasy the more you try to apply logic and facts. For example, those who counter Obama's record with the fantasy that he will change once he is free of the burden of reelection. They just "know" it will happen. How do you deal with that? And even then, I only close the door after they get abusive or walk away in anger as if I am the menace to society. Now the other category, the partisan shills who are aware of Obama and don't care, they are a different story all together. They have their tribal agenda to pursue and nothing you can say will change that. The best you can do with them is to counter their BS with anyone else around who may be listening, if you have the opportunity.
My current one, which I'm finding even more metastasized (and dangerous) than the archetypes you described, is the pragmatic centrist. While loathing the right as blandly as do the partisans, they look to the DLC's products as prudent "best of all possible worlds" choices, and specifically reject anything "left" as irresponsible. Granted, these types have always been around, but what makes them so dangerous right now is that they're developing in reaction to the increasing awareness about Obama. They're prepping potentially caring souls for how to respond to the human concerns that might otherwise reach them--such as, "it's bad to bomb children"--to such a sophisticated degree that some of the early potential for freeing people has been lost. Once, more humane people (token "liberals") might've said (1) "The Democrats don't fight brutal wars like the Republicans do." During Obama's term, that became (2) "The Democrats fight wars less brutally than the Republicans and were forced into it anyway." What I'm seeing now is the development of (3) "The Democrats fight [brutal] wars because the wars must be fought and it would be more brutal not to fight them." Where you could sometimes reach the first type of person with a, "Here's some evidence of Democrats starting brutal wars," and the second kind of person with a, "Here's some extreme brutality condoned by the Democrats," the (3) is so resilient that now it can begin the conversation by discussing all the details of the brutal wars and citing them as successes. There are no more horrible revelations to shake the young free of state worship, because they're already being prepped ahead of time to revere that very butchery and mock compassion. It's been said and/or predicted for years, but the DLC's current offerings actually are more monstrous than what the RNC could dream of putting together--and the more otherwise sensitive and humane liberal citizens have been enfolded into the bloodlust.
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